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Blinkie
01-25-2007, 02:46 PM
Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070122/wl_uk_afp/britainhistory_070122125729)

LONDON (AFP) - Forty-one percent of Britons believe that an event like the Holocaust could happen in the country today, given the depth of intolerance and prejudice, according to a new survey.

Furthermore, 36 percent thought that most people would do nothing about it if it did happen, in a poll released ahead of Holocaust Memorial Day on Saturday.

The YouGov poll of 2,400 Britons found that 50 percent did not know that as well as Jews, homosexuals, disabled people and the Roma community were also targeted by Nazi Germany.

A further 79 percent were unaware that black people were persecuted and killed under the Nazi regime in Germany, which ruled from 1933 to 1945.

The "alarming" results beg the question "have we really learnt anything from the genocides of our recent past?", said Stephen Smith, the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust chairman.

"With increasing levels of hate-crime, prejudice and ignorance towards those that are in some way different to ourselves, we really need to be vigilant in tackling prejudice and intolerance," he said.

"As genocides in Europe, Rwanda and Bosnia have shown, it doesn't take much to turn these negative conditions into something far more calamitous.

"We need to be constantly on our guard against this, which is why we are asking the public to show their support by lighting a candle to commemorate those killed in past genocides."

Holocaust Memorial Day, a day of remembrance across the world, marks the liberation of the Nazis' Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp in Poland.

It will be marked in Britain at the Theatre Royal in Newcastle, northeast England. The national commemoration was to remember victims of the Holocaust and genocides since such as Rwanda, Bosnia and the ongoing situation in the Darfur region of Sudan.

Auschwitz survivor Alex Ward said of the survey: "These statistics emphasise it is not just about remembering -- it is also about learning the lessons to ensure the horrific experiences my friends, family and I endured are not repeated."

I am with the majority on this. I think that not only is it entirely possible, it's probable. I also agree that most people will do nothing. I see most of the world sitting back and doing nothing.

It's scary. And terribly sad.

What do you think?

FrozenMonkey
01-25-2007, 08:08 PM
Do you mean another mass slaughtering of Jews, homosexuals, blacks, and Gypses?

Highly doubtful.

Atleast, not on the same scale as the Holocaust.


I mean, really, that was about 6 million people.

America flipped out when ~3,000 people died on 9/11.

I highly doubt the American govt. will sit back and watch 6mil more people die.

-HLK-
01-26-2007, 12:56 AM
Seems kind of dopey to me. Ignorance in some of the details of the Holocaust = ZOMG ANOTHER ONE SOON!!!11! seems dumb.

Having said that, it may depend a lot on politics, at least over in the US. If it were to be happening in the Middle East, it wont be happening. If it were in Africa, well..... let's just say there's a good chance it would get 'overlooked'. And even if there was another holocaust, and the government decided to ignore it, chances are we wont hear jack about it, so it wont matter.

Zooch
01-26-2007, 02:21 AM
Throw the Jew down the well
So my country can be free
If you grab him by his horns
We will throw a big party

OnandOn
01-26-2007, 08:44 AM
Do you mean another mass slaughtering of Jews, homosexuals, blacks, and Gypses?

Highly doubtful.

Atleast, not on the same scale as the Holocaust.


I mean, really, that was about 6 million people.

America flipped out when ~3,000 people died on 9/11.

I highly doubt the American govt. will sit back and watch 6mil more people die.


Well, what about Rwanda? And Darfur?

Blinkie
01-26-2007, 07:47 PM
Well, what about Rwanda? And Darfur?

That's what makes me wonder. We pretty much stayed out of it.

Seems kind of dopey to me. Ignorance in some of the details of the Holocaust = ZOMG ANOTHER ONE SOON!!!11! seems dumb.

What?

And even if there was another holocaust, and the government decided to ignore it, chances are we wont hear jack about it, so it wont matter.

That is horrible. Because we don't know about mass killings, they don't matter? Tell me I am misunderstanding you, and you don't really think that.





America flipped out when ~3,000 people died on 9/11.



America flipped out because it was an attack on America. They aren't going to take it as personal if someone else is being attacked.

-HLK-
01-26-2007, 08:07 PM
That is horrible. Because we don't know about mass killings, they don't matter? Tell me I am misunderstanding you, and you don't really think that.

:runscared:

Well then it's a good thing you misunderstood me then, because I meant it wouldnt matter what we thought was right because the government would never tell us.

:p

FrozenMonkey
01-26-2007, 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by -HLK-
And even if there was another holocaust, and the government decided to ignore it, chances are we wont hear jack about it, so it wont matter.

That is horrible. Because we don't know about mass killings, they don't matter? Tell me I am misunderstanding you, and you don't really think that.


I think what he's saying is that if it happens, and our government doesn't care about it, then we won't know about it, because the media won't cover it, and therefore it wouldn't matter if it was going on or not, we wouldn't know about it.

Blinkie
01-26-2007, 08:17 PM
We would most likely find out about it anyway.

Just because our government doesn't care, doesn't mean we wouldn't. How many knew about Rwanda before the movie? And now many people know.

G-T
01-26-2007, 08:30 PM
We would most likely find out about it anyway.

Just because our government doesn't care, doesn't mean we wouldn't. How many new about Rwanda before the movie? And now many people know.

But are people really doing anything that's making a difference over there, not really...

Blinkie
01-26-2007, 08:33 PM
Some are trying. What more can you do?

Prevention is key. Once it goes so far, it takes a lot to stop it.

FrozenMonkey
01-27-2007, 12:00 AM
We would most likely find out about it anyway.

Just because our government doesn't care, doesn't mean we wouldn't. How many new about Rwanda before the movie? And now many people know.
I still don't know about Rwanda? :confused:

Rocco
01-27-2007, 12:03 AM
are we just talking about jews? if not then 100% yes it will.

Blinkie
01-27-2007, 12:06 AM
Not just jews, no.

FrozenMonkey- if you don't want to look it up, go rent Hotel Rwanda.

Rocco
01-27-2007, 12:09 AM
Not just jews, no.

FrozenMonkey- if you don't want to look it up, go rent Hotel Rwanda.

then yes is has happend and will again. The whole bosnia thing was one.